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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.07.03 15:18:56 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Okay everyone so officially, for the record, application rig bonuses will be stacking penalized with both each other and with the new application modules. I'm sorry I couldn't get that made clearer sooner, and I was hoping it would be in the patch notes.
so, if you didn't want to suffer poor application and fit more than one application rig; you now have to sacrifice a low or mid slot in order to get the same application stats you have now? |
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Posted - 2015.07.03 15:35:33 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Okay everyone so officially, for the record, application rig bonuses will be stacking penalized with both each other and with the new application modules. I'm sorry I couldn't get that made clearer sooner, and I was hoping it would be in the patch notes. so, if you didn't want to suffer poor application and fit more than one application rig; you now have to sacrifice a low or mid slot in order to get the same application stats you have now? Less actually, since the mids and rigs are stacked against each other, and the fact these new mods do not represent the same application value rigs have, basically you get nothing out of using the new mods and there probably will never be a reason to use them, unless you going for some super long range missile ship or something.
indeed, yes it will be the third module.
fantastic.
so let's look at rigor rigs. 20% bonus, that's 44% for 2. (i assume they multiply not add)
afterwards
first rig will give 20%
second rig will give 17.4%
and a t2 low slot thingy will give 3.42%
multiply all of those together for.... 45.69%.
(40.88% without the t2 low slot thingy) |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.07.03 15:45:07 -
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stoicfaux wrote:tl;dr - An entire missile balance package that maybe ships like the Typhoon can take advantage of, and even that is somewhat debatable.
/grumble
and a nerf to every ship using multiple application rigs, which due to how missiles work is going to be nearly all of them. |
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:00:39 -
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Markos Cerrilus wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:HMs do not need a direct damage increase.
They need you to revert the 12% reduction in explosion radius done in 2012 sometime. Thats it.
Presently even with application mods in Rigs, HMs are losing nearly 40% of their DPS in application vs Turrets who lose only around 30% (arties 35%) using only 1 Tracking Comp + Tracking Speed.
Just remove the explosion radius change, so HMs can hit similar application numbers. Their peak DPS and Alpha are fine.
The new application modules will specifically help address this issue, as long as you are willing to fit at least one. Yes, the implication of what these do to bombers makes for an amazing alpha frigate.
won't do **** for bombers. they lack slots for a start. not to mention the fact that rigs are now stacking penalised makes it even worse.
you either take a direct damage nerf to fit a low slot module, or you trade survivability or a TP for extra application (that isn't extra since your rigs are now stacking penalised (and you may have just traded a TP for it)).
these new modules ain't going to do a fat lot for bombers. |
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Posted - 2015.07.06 19:49:01 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:Even Bombers don't use Torps.
uhh, yeah they do. |
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Posted - 2015.07.07 10:19:35 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Even Bombers don't use Torps. uhh, yeah they do. Can't remember the last time I was flying in Null and thought to myself "Better watch out for those bomber torps!"
funfact: not all pvp happens in null. |
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Posted - 2015.07.08 05:29:19 -
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afkalt wrote:Indeed, I guess we'll find out when the deployment successfully re-completes tomorrow :)
to avoid such embarrassments, perhaps CCP should invest in setting up an additional server purely for testing things. maybe even open it up to the players. "two heads are better than one".
oh, wait.... |
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Posted - 2015.07.08 17:33:57 -
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LastGunslinger Tull wrote:Thank god, missiles are finally getting some love.
where? when? |
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